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		<title>By: Philemon</title>
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As with all books on pretty much any subject, this book has its pros and cons. Discussions of the Celts these days seem to be very polarized--either they are a bunch of drunken, warlike barbarians who benefited immensely from the civilizing influence of Rome, or they are under-rated geniuses who actually invented everything any civilized person could want long before Rome or anyone else in the Classical world. In fact, the truth is in the middle--the Celts were far more like the Romans than either group acknowledges, there were many admirable things about their various cultures, and the Romans were neither more nor less violent and warlike than they were.&#013;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This book falls squarely in the category of Celts as under-rated geniuses, and if you read it understanding that this is the author&#039;s bias, then it&#039;s not a bad book. There are relatively few outright errors, but much that is relevant is left out, much that is included is irrelevant, and the slant is sometimes so great that the reader is in danger of falling off the edge. The most obvious is the author&#039;s commitment to the idea that there is a single Celtic culture (which most archaeologists now reject), indicated, for example, by his persistent portrayal of &quot;Celtic&quot; as a single language and the variants on it as dialects. In fact, there were many different Celtic languages, and there is no more a single Celtic language than there is a single European language. There are many blanket statements that lack any reference to back them up, which as a scholar I find very frustrating, and often the references that are included are very old; for example, there is an archaeology reference that dates from the 1920s! Ellis may be surprised to discover that the field has changed a lot since then, and interpretations that are more than 20 years old are no longer standard in the field. Documentary sources are also treated oddly. Texts from Ireland that are clearly not historical are treated as though they are the work of modern historians (e.g. no one accepts as factual the Irish documents that claim to describe rulers from 1000 BCE!). Predictably, Roman sources that are complimentary to the Celts are cited without comment, as though they are perfectly accurate, while those critical of the Celts are subject to scrutiny for bias and found wanting. And sometimes these are the same authors and the same texts! Similarly, information that is damaging to the Celts is simply not mentioned, for example sources indicating that the status of Celtic women, while better than that in Rome, was nowhere near as high as that of men. And I&#039;m still trying to work out why anything in India, mentioned frequently, is relevant to the interpretation of Celtic cultures.&#013;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, if you read this book with the understanding that it far from an unbiased portrait of Celtic cultures (and, FYI, the portrayal of the work of people like James, Collis, and others in the preface is badly distorted--read them for yourself and then judge), then it is a decent survey of what we know about them. Just be aware that there is a lot of other relevant information that is left out, and you should read other books alongside it to provide a more accurate portrait (e.g. Cunliffe&#039;s The Celts, or James&#039; The Atlantic Celts, or Wells&#039; Beyond Celts, Germans, and Scythians).&#013;&lt;br/&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with all books on pretty much any subject, this book has its pros and cons. Discussions of the Celts these days seem to be very polarized&#8211;either they are a bunch of drunken, warlike barbarians who benefited immensely from the civilizing influence of Rome, or they are under-rated geniuses who actually invented everything any civilized person could want long before Rome or anyone else in the Classical world. In fact, the truth is in the middle&#8211;the Celts were far more like the Romans than either group acknowledges, there were many admirable things about their various cultures, and the Romans were neither more nor less violent and warlike than they were.&#13;</p>
<p>This book falls squarely in the category of Celts as under-rated geniuses, and if you read it understanding that this is the author&#8217;s bias, then it&#8217;s not a bad book. There are relatively few outright errors, but much that is relevant is left out, much that is included is irrelevant, and the slant is sometimes so great that the reader is in danger of falling off the edge. The most obvious is the author&#8217;s commitment to the idea that there is a single Celtic culture (which most archaeologists now reject), indicated, for example, by his persistent portrayal of &#8220;Celtic&#8221; as a single language and the variants on it as dialects. In fact, there were many different Celtic languages, and there is no more a single Celtic language than there is a single European language. There are many blanket statements that lack any reference to back them up, which as a scholar I find very frustrating, and often the references that are included are very old; for example, there is an archaeology reference that dates from the 1920s! Ellis may be surprised to discover that the field has changed a lot since then, and interpretations that are more than 20 years old are no longer standard in the field. Documentary sources are also treated oddly. Texts from Ireland that are clearly not historical are treated as though they are the work of modern historians (e.g. no one accepts as factual the Irish documents that claim to describe rulers from 1000 BCE!). Predictably, Roman sources that are complimentary to the Celts are cited without comment, as though they are perfectly accurate, while those critical of the Celts are subject to scrutiny for bias and found wanting. And sometimes these are the same authors and the same texts! Similarly, information that is damaging to the Celts is simply not mentioned, for example sources indicating that the status of Celtic women, while better than that in Rome, was nowhere near as high as that of men. And I&#8217;m still trying to work out why anything in India, mentioned frequently, is relevant to the interpretation of Celtic cultures.&#13;</p>
<p>However, if you read this book with the understanding that it far from an unbiased portrait of Celtic cultures (and, FYI, the portrayal of the work of people like James, Collis, and others in the preface is badly distorted&#8211;read them for yourself and then judge), then it is a decent survey of what we know about them. Just be aware that there is a lot of other relevant information that is left out, and you should read other books alongside it to provide a more accurate portrait (e.g. Cunliffe&#8217;s The Celts, or James&#8217; The Atlantic Celts, or Wells&#8217; Beyond Celts, Germans, and Scythians).&#13;</p>
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		<title>By: Zahur</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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I was hesitant to read this after looking at some of the reviews posted here. But I took a chance and I will admit, I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed this book. Its well-cited and the author has kept up to date with pertinent issues, such as languages and archaeological findings. I read Tacitus earlier this summer, as well as some other books on the &quot;prehistory&quot; of Scotland and I think this particular book is not meant to be concise/definitive (or a piece of propaganda)....its simply an introduction. I recommend it if you want to get your feet wet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hesitant to read this after looking at some of the reviews posted here. But I took a chance and I will admit, I&#8217;ve thoroughly enjoyed this book. Its well-cited and the author has kept up to date with pertinent issues, such as languages and archaeological findings. I read Tacitus earlier this summer, as well as some other books on the &#8220;prehistory&#8221; of Scotland and I think this particular book is not meant to be concise/definitive (or a piece of propaganda)&#8230;.its simply an introduction. I recommend it if you want to get your feet wet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ioviano</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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I  thought  this  book  was  an  excellent  overview  of  ancient  Celtic  history. It  is  not  meant  to  be a  difinitive   work. But  if  your  looking  for  a  solid   overview  this  is  an  excellent  place  to  start.&#013;&lt;br/&gt;To  those  who  are  having  a  go  at   this  book  I  would  say  firstly   Ellis  does  not   hate   Romans   or  Greeks  he  just   rightly  points  out  that  when   reading  the  Romans  accounts   of  the  Celts   you  must  take  into  account   that   they   were   fighting  the  Celts  and  driving  them   out  of continental  Europe   so  they  hardly  were  likely  to  be  writing  flowing  tributes   to  the  Celts. &#013;&lt;br/&gt;To  those  who   attack  the  very  existence  of  the  Celts  mentioning   recent  books  by  John  Collis  and  Simon   James   I   would   say   remember  they  are  British  and  they  are  part  of  an  anglo  culture  which  is  obviously  very  anti  Celtic  and  in  particular   very  nervous   about  the  Celtic  revivals  going  on  in  Scotland   and  Wales   fueled   by  the  recent  devloution. Collis  and  James  are  more  interested  in  politics  and  their anglo  cultural   racism.&#013;&lt;br/&gt;O  and  by  the  way   Ceaser  in  De  Bello  Gallico   himself   during  his   campaign  in  Gaul   (one  which   today  I  think  would  fit  the  definition  of  genocide)   mentions   that  the  Gauls   called  themselves   Celts  and  comments   that   their   religion   prohibits  them   from putting  their  teachings  and  beliefs  to  paper.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  thought  this  book  was  an  excellent  overview  of  ancient  Celtic  history. It  is  not  meant  to  be a  difinitive   work. But  if  your  looking  for  a  solid   overview  this  is  an  excellent  place  to  start.&#13;<br />To  those  who  are  having  a  go  at   this  book  I  would  say  firstly   Ellis  does  not   hate   Romans   or  Greeks  he  just   rightly  points  out  that  when   reading  the  Romans  accounts   of  the  Celts   you  must  take  into  account   that   they   were   fighting  the  Celts  and  driving  them   out  of continental  Europe   so  they  hardly  were  likely  to  be  writing  flowing  tributes   to  the  Celts. &#13;<br />To  those  who   attack  the  very  existence  of  the  Celts  mentioning   recent  books  by  John  Collis  and  Simon   James   I   would   say   remember  they  are  British  and  they  are  part  of  an  anglo  culture  which  is  obviously  very  anti  Celtic  and  in  particular   very  nervous   about  the  Celtic  revivals  going  on  in  Scotland   and  Wales   fueled   by  the  recent  devloution. Collis  and  James  are  more  interested  in  politics  and  their anglo  cultural   racism.&#13;<br />O  and  by  the  way   Ceaser  in  De  Bello  Gallico   himself   during  his   campaign  in  Gaul   (one  which   today  I  think  would  fit  the  definition  of  genocide)   mentions   that  the  Gauls   called  themselves   Celts  and  comments   that   their   religion   prohibits  them   from putting  their  teachings  and  beliefs  to  paper.</p>
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